Review: Continuous Ink System For Artisan 800 810 (CIS CISS Bulk)

Epson Artisan 800 – 810 With CIS System:

Epson Artisan 800 WIth CIS CISS Continuous Ink System Freedom To Print

The Artisan 800 and Artisan 810 are identical in configuration, look, shape, cartridges used, with the exception of one piece of hardware.  The Epson auto duplexer is included with the Artisan 810 – available as a $30.00 add-on for Artisan 800, and 700 owners.

Going to be the last printer we ever purchase – seriously. The highlights?

  1. Wireless – (not a big deal now, but will be a favorite feature quickly)
  2. Six (6) cartridge system that does not move (makes using a CIS a must do)
  3. Really nice quality prints on photo paper or plain paper
  4. No more worries about ink
  5. Fax built-in
  6. Scanner is 4800 dpi – think postage stamp blown up to the size of a billboard
  7. Media readers (mounts accessible networked volumes – nifty feature)
  8. Paper tray is small, but will hold plain paper and 4×6, or 5×7 photo paper in the top section. Holds two sizes.  Can automatically determine what paper is used or selected
  9. Large 7.8 inch display makes using without a computer easier than when connected to the printer.
  10. Optional $30.00 duplxer (prints on both sides automatically)
  11. Prints to CDs – and it looks cool, hidden CD tray

Great printer – but not if you are using Epson’s cartridge.  Incredibly, the Epson Artisan 800 is a perfectly built printer to take advantage of a continuous inking system (bulk ink).  The CIS has no moving parts, and ink is fed directly to the printer as it needs it.  Just a wonderful set-up, and can be had for cheap.  Think cost per page in the .02-.03 range – 4-color photo printing.  The Artisan 800 has 6 cartridges (colors) which makes photos, presentations, or even simple prints look fantastic.

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Epson Artisan CIS CISS Bulk Ink System 119.00 And Never Buy Another Cartridge

Artisan Owners $120.00 For CIS

Already own an Epson Artisan 700, 710, 800, 810 inkjet printer – no problem.  Kits are incredibly simple to install, and you can kiss buying cartridges goodbye.  Estimate paying in the $95-$120 range (with shipping and taxes) for a good system.  Prints rated at 3,000 for included ink, 5,000 pages after with simple $40.00 full set refill.

Easy installation for your Artisan 800 Epson CIS CISS Bulk Ink System.

Easy installation for your Artisan 800 Epson CIS CISS Bulk Ink System.

Easy installation for your Artisan 800 Epson CIS CISS Bulk Ink System.

Easy installation for your Artisan 800 Epson CIS CISS Bulk Ink System.

Press this reset button when the printer claims it's out of ink.

Artisan 800 Ink Sits Outside The Printer CIS CISS

Prints so cheap…you can print!

The ink sits outside the printer and is easily refilled.  As stated earlier, after the initial 40-50ml of ink that is included with the system is used (about 3,000 pages) – refills will run you $50.00 a box for all 6 colors (120ml each bottle).  Not a bad deal, and most likely the last ink you will ever purchase. A plus from us.

Check out this video and see what we mean about no moving parts.  The cartridges in the CI system do not move.

News: Epson T069 Can’t Be Refilled?

Can new Epson cartridges be refilled?

Example cartridge used is the T069 series yellow and magenta, however Epson’s current line of cartridges (T088, T069, T068, T077, T078, T098, T099) are all very similar in both shape and size, and getting inside the cartridge involves the same steps.

Step 1: Removing the cover

First part is to get the cover off.  There are 5 self locking tabs around he top of the cartridge. We used a thin blade, but it was still very difficult to get these tabs dislodged.  The bottom of the cartridge consists of three very simple to release tabs.  Start at the bottom to get better leverage.

There are 5 clips and 3 tabs that must be released to remove the outer cover of the Epson T069, T068, T077, T088, T098, T099 series inkjet cartridges.

There are 5 clips and 3 tabs that must be released to remove the outer cover of the Epson T069, T068, T077, T088, T098, T099 series inkjet cartridges.

Cover removed.

Cover removed from the T069 series ink cartridge.

Cover removed from the T069 series ink cartridge.

Step 2: Removing Black Tape

Once you get the cover off, Epson has seen fit to put a piece of black tape over the very thin layer of clear plastic that holds the ink in the cartridge.  If you rip the underside clear membrane while trying to remove the black tape, the cartridge will not be refillable.

The black tape prevents easy refilling, unless you know where to poke.

The black tape prevents easy refilling, unless you know where to poke.

Now removing the black tape is a very hard thing to do.  We had a heck of a time getting it off and punctured several cartridges in our attempt to remove the stubborn black tape. Be careful and go slow.  It took us 5 tries and a heat gun to get the pesky black tape off the cartridge without puncturing the clear plastic underneath which is holding the ink in the cartridge.

It was much harder to get the black tape off.  This is for illustration only.

It was much harder to get the black tape off. This is for illustration only.

As the caption implies this is not the way the black tape came off.  We started pulling back the black tape from the edges, heated with heat gun and just sent very slow pulling he black tape up slowly.  It took us about 5 minutes to get the tape off after practicing on 4 destroyed cartridges.  The black plastic is not really tape, rather it is glued onto the cartridge along the internal chamber walls.

Finally, we can see the inside, and the protective coating which keeps the ink in the cartridge.

Finally, we can see the inside, and the protective coating which keeps the ink in the cartridge.

Step 3: Where to fill

Remember  to refill both ink chambers.  Both ink chambers (one on top left, and one on right) must contain ink at all times.  There is a sensor in the egress hole of the cartridge that will short out the chip on the outside of the cartridge if the chamber on the right runs dry.

Epson's clever two chip designed inkjet cartridge.

Epson's clever two chip designed inkjet cartridge.

The cartridge above is the T088 series.  Notice all the airspace? If you want to know more about the double chip configuration of these cartridges, please click here:

https://inkdaddy.wordpress.com/2009/03/17/news-epson-says-hack-this-t069t068-refill-prevention/

And there you go.  If you can figure out how to reset the chip on the end of the cartridge you can reinsert the cartridge as is, or you can put the cover back on and pop into your printer.  As far as the black tape goes, we can see no justification for it being there.  It adds nothing to the cartridge, and was not present on cartridges from as little as a year ago.  It is there to foil refilling plain and simple.

News: Epson Says Hack This! T069/T068 Refill Prevention

More Bad News For Epson Refillers/Remanufacturers:

(see update at bottom) We cracked open some cartridges yesterday and have more bad news for refillers/remanufacturers. There is an easily findable internal Cartridge World document floating around on the web that corroborates our findings.  It appears the rumors are true, and Epson has deployed a second chip embedded inside the cartridge,  behind the outer chip in another effort to make the cartridge un-refillable.

Epson double chip cartridge makes refilling almost impossible.

Epson double chip cartridge makes refilling almost impossible.

Hidden Chip Inside Cartridge:

In addition to the chip on the end of the cartridge that monitors your ink usage, there is a second chip embedded inside the cartridge that is not user resettable.  While the chip on the outside of the cartridge can easily be reset, the internal chip cannot be reset and communicates with the outside chip.  If this internal chip becomes dry “due to ink depletion” the main chip on the outside of the cartridge is written to as permanently empty and the cartridge becomes forever useless.

Clever Design:

Close-up of the internal ink sensor chip on the T068/T069/T088 cartridges.

Close-up of the internal ink sensor chip on the T068/T069/T088 cartridges.

Epson has cleverly incorporated this second chip into the cartridge, and we doubt most people even know of its existence.  What the chip does is not exactly clear.  However, you can tell from the cracked open cartridge picture below that the Epson ink cartridge has two distinct ink channels or chambers that meet at the internal chip (which is placed right above the egress hole where the ink hole is).   When compatibles (copies) from China were available for the T068/T069 and T078/T077 series inkjet cartridges, it was simply a copy of the Epson cartridge shape, sans the internal chip.  Now that no more compatibles (copies) are making it into the US we are not sure how to get around this one.

2nd Chip Complicates Remanufacturing or Refilling:

Epson ink monitor chip on all currently shipping Epson inkjet printers.

Epson ink monitor chip on all currently shipping Epson inkjet printers.

In a pre-litigation world, some 3rd party company would have developed copies of the chips and made them available to remanufacturers, and refillers. This second chip is a new development (the second chip was not present in the last pre-lawsuit set of cartridges from Epson T048/T060/T044) and it takes time for the aftermarket to catch up. Combine that with Epson’s recent victories in preventing the importation of compatible cartridges (exact copies), and we have a cartridge shortage on our hands. To exacerbate the problem, Epson has recently released a new cartridge series (T098/T099) along with some new printers, and you can expect more new cartridges in the very near feature as Epson tries to get way ahead of the aftermarket competition.

Lots Of R&D Money To Design Un-Hackable Cartridge:

We must say, it is a very clever design.  Makes most cartridges impossible to refill.

Also mentioned in the Cartridge World internal document is the requirement of refilling the cartridge before the “low ink” warning comes on.  How one is supposed to know when a cartridge is 1/4 full  we have no idea.  The document goes on to say that if refilling is not done when the cartridge is at least 25% full, the chip embedded in the cartridge will write to the outside chip that it is – empty – rendering the outside chip un-resetable.  Maybe it cuts off the flow?  Who knows, but this would explain what the two distinct ink chambers are for.  All we know is there are no remanufactured T068/T069 series cartridges currently available (if you live outside the USA, the import ban obviously does not effect you).

Are There Still Compatibles Out There?

There were some compatibles available right before the import ban (so we know it is easy to make a copy), however Epson was changing the outer chip design every month or so, therefore the compatibles that were available did not always work properly.  Before the importers from China could work it out, the cartridges were cut off.  There may still be some of these cartridges out there, but they are getting old.  Import ban was effective October of 2007.

Epson's clever two chip designed inkjet cartridge.

Epson's clever two chip designed inkjet cartridge.

We assume that this dual chip design is also incorporated into the T078/T077 series, T098/T099, as well as other newly shipping Epson cartridges. Epson has brought a sledgehammer to the aftermarket fight, and it will take some time for 3rd party cartridge remanufacturers to catch up.  So to review, this is what Epson includes as “refilling-deterrents”:

  1. Chip on outside of cartridge (ink monitor) – must be reset
  2. 2nd chip inside the cartridge – ?
  3. Black tape over the clear plastic covering to prevent one from seeing the inside of the cartridge

In the mean time, find those cheap cartridges wherever you can, and stay tuned for updates.

If you would like to see the Cartridge World internal document, it is still available in PDF form here:

http://www.box.net/shared/8bc7e95gid

Specs: Epson Artisan 810

Epson Artisan 810 All-On-One Printer:

Quite possibly the last inkjet printer you may ever purchase.  This printer has everything! Built-in fax, CD/DVD printing, 6-color photo printer, media readers, scanner, copier, wireless or ethernet connections – just a great inkjet printer. Auto duplexer included with the Artisan 810 (not included with the Artisan 800).

Epson Artisan 810 Inkjet Printer

Watch how to relocate the scanner lid open sensor.

Watch the print head in action.

Highlights:

  • 7.8″ touch panel, 3.5″ LCD
  • Wi-Fi® and Ethernet networking
  • 4″ x 6″ photo in as fast as 10 sec
  • 38 ppm max/9.1 ppm laser quality
  • CD/DVD printing
  • Automatic two-sided printing
  • Two paper trays, 30-page ADF
  • Easily charge portable devices
  • Two-year limited warranty

Ink Cartridges Used & Amount Of Ink Contained:

Cartridges that are included with the printer – there two (2) “high capacity” black cartridges included with the printer – T098120 – which each contain 11ml of ink.  The other 5 cartridges included are the smaller T099 series which contain a measly 7ml of ink.  This 6-color printer uses six (6) individual cartridges. (note, there is no T099 series black cartridge at the time of this post)

T098 Black – T099 Colors:

T098120

$17.09

T099220

$10.44

T099320

$10.44

T099420

$10.44

Epson Artisan inkjet printer cartridge T099 series 7ml inkT099520

$10.44

Epson Artisan inkjet printer cartridge T099 series 7ml inkT099620

$10.44

T098 Series “High Capacity” Inks:

Here are the high capacity cartridge options, available from Epson direct only.

t098120 Black discount inkjet printer cartridge for Artisan series inkjet printers

T098120 $17.09

T098220 Cyan Discount Inkjet Printer Cartridge For Epson Artisan Ink Jet Printers

T098220 $15.99

T098320 Magenta Discount Inkjet Printer Cartridge For Epson Artisan Ink Jet Printers

T098320 $15.99

T098420 Yellow Discount Inkjet Printer Cartridge For Epson Artisan Ink Jet Printers

T098420 $15.99

T098520 Photo Cyan Discount Inkjet Printer Cartridge For Epson Artisan Ink Jet Printers

T098520 $15.99

T098620 Photo Magenta Discount Inkjet Printer Cartridge For Epson Artisan Ink Jet Printers

T098620 $15.99

Cartridges Installed:

Epson Artisan 800 810 700 710 Cartridges Installed T099 and T98 series

Here is what the cartridges installed look like. Note, these cartridges do not move – rather, ink is sucked from the cartridge to the print head via tubing – see above video for more detailed info.

Current price for this printer:

Artisan 810 Price Listing

The Artisan 810 includes the Auto Duplexer option standard (this was not the case on the Artisan 800 series).

Artisan 710 vs. 810 Differences:

There are some differences between the Artisan 710 and Artisan 810 inkjet printers.  A good list can be seen here.

Differences between the Artisan 710 and Artisan 810 inkjet printers